This webpage is a copy of the comments received on a blog post on Ali’s original website, The blog post itself is now at “Flax butt handles”.

17 Comments on “Flax butt handles”

  1. Noa Says:

    Kia ora Ali - I am a weaver. A couple of years a go I purchased one of your flax flower books with a group of other weavers. I am looking for a supplier of paua shell (in particular - the piece of the paua that forms the thickened rim or lip of the paua). About 19 years ago I was able to purchase double tumbled paua shell pieces from a place ‘Southern Shell in the South Island. Do you know of such a company/ wholesaler in the South Is. Could you perhaps direct me to a supplier IN NZ. I have been surfing the net - but am becoming more and more frutstrated as I have had no luck in finding what I want. Thank you for your help

    Naaku noa Noa

  2. Ali Says:

    Kia ora Noa

    Yes I do know the company you mean. They are now called Ocean Shell and they are based in Riverton, near Invercargill. They sell all sorts of things including the paua rims that you’re after. I’ve bought paua from them for a number of years and find them good to deal with.

  3. Kate Says:

    I agree that it seems a waste to throw the flax butts away. Do you think the they could be used to make a strong basket? Or could they be used for the base of a basket?

  4. Lee Rzoska Says:

    Hello, my name is Lee Rzoska and I am a weaver in Golden Bay. I was taught to use the whole blade, butt and all to make a herring bone bottomed basket. You dont prepare anything but these baskets are quicker and easier to make with two. They are great for the garden or anything really.Regards Lee

  5. Ali Says:

    Hi Kate and Lee
    Yes Kate, as Lee mentions, there is one particular style of basket that is made with the whole leaf including the butt. I hope to include instructions for that style of basket in my next book which will be a book on basket-making.

  6. E thompson Says:

    Can u email me how 2make a fish please thanxs

  7. Pukerewa Rameka Says:

    Hi my name is Pukerewa I just purchased your second book on flowers it is so cool I love it I can’t wait for your next book to come out I live at Takou Bay in the Bay of Islands which I just love but I have a question to ask you about the plant pingao we have some here at home we used to have abundant of this beautiful plant but its not as much as use to be which is really sad so my brother and I have decided to fence off the sand dunes counting to get the other whanau to agree but the question I want to ask you have you got a book about what we can weave with this plant also any other information or if you know of a book that I could purchase it would be great also I can’t wait for the book of basketmaking thank you Pukerewa

  8. Ali Says:

    Hi E Thompson

    Instructions on how to make a fish are in Mick Pendergrast’s book Fun with Flax, which I mention on the Reviews page of this website. The book should be available at your local library.

  9. Ali Says:

    Hi Pukerewa

    Thanks for your comments about my book. I’m glad you’re enjoying it.

    Good on you for nurturing your local pingao plants and working with your local whanau to do this. You may find your local council or Department of Conservation will assist with this project as well.

    I don’t think there are any books about weaving with pingao but you may find the little book Pingao: The Golden Sand Sedge which I mention on the Reviews page of this web site useful as far as looking after the plants is concerned.

    Also, have a look at my blog post Growing and weaving pīngao where you’ll see some weaving baskets that have been woven with pingao and also be able to read some discussion about weaving with pingao.

    I suggest you can make anything with pingao that you can make with quite thin strips of soft flax, although you are limited by the length of the strips, so you’ll only be able to make smaller things. I’ve found it’s not as strong as flax so it will need a little bit more care when working with it.

    Good luck with your project and do keep in touch about it.

  10. Maggie Warren Says:

    Hi Ali,
    Received your beautiful, wonderful book. It is truly an inspiration. Have very moderate weaving experience, your photos and instruction’s are great. Working on the camelia today. Can’t recommend this book enough. Do you ever have plans to teach in California? Lots of Flax available!

  11. Ali Says:

    Hi Maggie

    Thanks for your comments about the book. I’m glad you’re finding it useful.

    I’d love to teach in California! The best way to do this is have someone arrange and sponsor the workshop. Do you know of any groups who would be interested to do this?

  12. Careata Says:

    Hi Ali

    I am a great fan of your book and also your website and have spent many hours reading and re-reading all of the posts of here. I have a problem that I am I facing at the moment, that I am hoping you my be able to help me with. I am a self-taught weaver and learn mainly by studying photos and various books about weaving. I am trying to learn how to finish the bottom of a kete whakairo and need to learn how to do this. I have made a kete today and am trying to teach myself how to do the bottom join, but with not much luck. I am not able to attend any weaving workshops and do not know anyone in my area that does raranga.

    Please, any help you could give me would be greatly appreciated. I dont need photos or very detailed explanations, so hopefully that will make your reply a little easier.

    Thank you and I hope to hear from you soon


  13. Ali Says:

    Hi Careta

    Thanks for your comments about my book and website.

    There are different ways to create a kete whakairo so it will depend on which way you have started it but I’m assuming you have made it as a cylinder to start with, as you say you are about to do the bottom join. If you have woven the kete with the underside of the flax strips on the outside, then you can join it at the bottom using a variation of what I know as the double lock which is illustrated on page 88, as an alternative finish for a hat, in the book Te Mahi Kete by Mick Pendergrast, which you can see on my Reviews page. You will need to press both sides of the kete together and work this finish with strips from both sides. It’s a bit tricky to start but as you are used to working things out, you should be OK. An alternative method is to work a single lock all the way around the base of the kete (pages 48-49 of Te Mahi Kete) and then plait along the base with the strips left at the top.

    If you have woven the kete with the right side of the flax strips on the outside, one way to finish it is to plait the bottom. Do this by pressing the sides together and work a French plait along the bottom of the kete from one corner to the other with half the strips from each side, and then plait back the other way with the other half. In this version of the French plait, pick up every second strip from each side to include in the plait as you work along the bottom. The plait will get thicker as you work along. To my way of thinking, this is not the best finish for a kete, as it can be bulky, and I don’t think it is generally used for kete whakairo, so I suggest you try and turn your kete inside out and do the other finish, if you have actually woven it the right way out.

    Hopefully some other weavers may write about other methods here.

    Let me know how you get on.

    Incidentally, I cannot view your Facebook page because I am not a member of Facebook, and Facebook limits access to the page to members only.

  14. SHA Says:

    Hello Ali

    I have a question, I have some flax puti puti and I was wondering - I would like to spray paint it.

    1. does the puti puti needs to be fully dry before I spray painting it and
    2. what type of paint ( arcrilic )?

    Await your reply and kia ora.

  15. Auriette Says:

    Kia ora Ali
    Im a beginner/intermediate weaver in Invercargill, and purchased your putiputi book. It is awesome, it has been fun making the different putiputi. I also look forward to your kete pukapuka. I have bought from the Riverton shop paua and as you say they have all the parts of the paua, my favoutite is the bit with the natural holes. I have made 2 items using the whole harakeke leaf - basket and a cylinder like a big vase for putiputi, tutor taught us and the basket has been our most excellent inside wood basket this winter. I just might have a go at the butt handles and decorating them. Not ready to add extra’s to my kete yet :) still trying to get the weaving nice n tight and even.
    Keep up te tino pai mahi! Auriette

  16. Ali Says:

    Kia ora Sha

    I’m sorry for taking so long to reply to your query. I don’t spray paint flax at all so I don’t have any experience of how it works. However, I imagine that it would be good to have the flax dry before you spray paint it as the flax will shrink a bit as it dries which will crack the paint if the flax is painted before it dries. I imagine that acrylic would be OK to use.

  17. Ali Says:

    Kia ora Auriette
    Thanks for writing about your weaving. The Riverton shop is good for paua isn’t it?